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Creating and using multiple height Takeoffs
Hi,
We often use the surface area takeoff function to measure our partitions. A lot of the time we have the same partition build up but at different heights, meaning that we have to create another takeoff for essentially the same wall.
Has anyone found a work around for this or even a better method for this?
Thanks,
Ward
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Devon Streckfuss
Great question Ward!
The “height” value for a single surface area takeoff can vary by measurement. This means you can use the same takeoff to place measurements for partitions with different heights; Just be sure to adjust the height value in the measurement settings window on the left side of your screen before you place the measurements.
If you need to keep track of which measurements are associated with a specific wall height, You can create a “Wall Height” label and apply it to your measurements by height accordingly.
(Click here for more information on how to use “Labels” to categorize your measurements)
wardfarrell
Hi Devon,
Thank you for your reply. I just want to check that by measuring the different walls at different heights that they are linked to the relative build up?
For example if i have the same wall type measured at 5 meters in height and 6.5 meters in height (10 meters in length) that the square meter labour and material built up is reflected.
5 meters x 10 meters = 50 m2 of board
6.5 meters x 10 meters = 65 m2 of board
Adding to a total of 115m2 of board.
Devon Streckfuss
Yes; Any quantity calculation for Items/Assemblies attached to the takeoff you used to place those measurements will take into account the Height value you’ve assigned to specific measurements.
Jason Armstrong
I ran into a similar issue. I used to make a different take off for each wall assembly and height. I solved this by using a linear takeoff with an assembly that has “Wall Height” as a user defined variable. See the attached PDF. Here I can define my components and my heights, do a linear take off, and presto! The components are drop down menus using Item Groups in the assembly. This will do any framed wall i need in either DF or LVL to 32’.
Laurent Dumont
Hello Jason,
Thanks for sharing that.
This is very helpful!
CBC-MN
I also run into this a lot where I have Wall type B that is a wall framed to 6” above ceiling height. Ceiling heights range from 8’-16’ so I need to create multiple Assemblies with different heights. From your post, I'm assuming this is also the issue you ran into?
My workflow for that right now is just creating a linear takeoff labeled Wall Type B, adding the assembly to it that I want which has a wall height field, I then make copies of the takeoff and relabel it wall type B 10’, 12’, 12’6 ect and go in and change the height field to match the takeoff name. This is now much easier in the Estimate Worksheet because I can just right click a cell and change the takeoff input right there for multiple assemblies in seconds.
I can upload a video of this if you would like!
STACK_Tim
@CBC-MN I do not believe you can upload a video, but you can share a link if the video is viewable on another site.
Jason Armstrong
@CBC-MN this is exactly how I do mine. I also use item groups to select the stud length. Ex. The user defined wall height is 10’9’ then i am selecting 12’ stud material from my item groups (assuming one bottom and two top plates).
CBC-MN
@Jason Armstrong I thought about doing something like that with item groups but based on our metal stud designations I would have somewhere around 470,000 different items and I have 0 want to put those into stack xD
I just use the name field to designate what sort of material I am using. So for a 3 5/8 20 gauge stud that is 10’6” I would name it 362S125-18-10.5’
This way I can still maintain all of the detail without having to put thousands of items into stack for each size, gauge, length, coating, and other info.
Jason Armstrong
@CBC-MN this makes perfect sense.
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